I've always been concerned they let them into known crewmember from day one. I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. But of course, they would have to pay them more. This is also known as the 3-1-1 liquids rule. On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. Flight attendants have the weapons they need readily available: cockpit access and a bottle of wine from the galley. darts. TSA never figured it out, who screens TSA agents? For those who say "well, they're flying the plane ." that didn't end well for the pax and rest of crew of the German flight whose pilot crashed it into a mountain after locking out his copilot, or probably MH360. PURPOSE This directive establishes FPS policy for applying security force countermeasures to mitigate . It's not my business what a person freely chooses to put in their own bodynor is it government's business. Known Crew Members (KCM) Lanes KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crew members. The TSA is just theater of the absurd (95% fail rate*) . Airline pilot here. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. Thats fine. The 282-ton . Sponsored by ALPA and Airlines for America. 0000000016 00000 n As it is, the random screenings have increased exponentially - to the point where crew members are tempted to go through the pre check line anyway to avoid an extra step of waiting for someone to tell you to go there. So they pick on us instead. "Dream big and dare to fail." March 11, 1914 - June 26, 2020 (106 years old) Westchester, FL Services By Conboy-Westchester Funeral Home - Westchester George and Margaret Keller never suspected that the man terrorizing their city could be a member of their own family. Are you worried that they might find the child porn that you regularly travel with now that you'll be going through security more often? Second, customers are always disappointed when a crew member steps to the front of a line. It truly serves no purpose, even as a deterrent. Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. You have a nice day. The exception is that employees will sometimes be randomly selected to be screened, and the number of random screenings has reportedly increased significantly in recent months (and will continue to increase). 0000002541 00000 n We also hoped it would inform and deter travelers from packing prohibited items in their own carry-on and checked bags. For all these keyboard cowboys, do you actually know how to Google? Hotel and Transportation Issues We Need Facts! Sorry the rule applies if you don't like it then leave. It's not at all fair to the crew members who do the right thing. Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. Like other airline workers dont use a SIDA badge and go through another entrance. xref A:The KCM barcode card is used to expedite the crewmember verification process at the KCM access points. How many pounds of illegal drugs have TSA agents detected and confiscated since their inception? Considering 90% of guns are not even found when the TSA is tested by other government agencies, I'm curious how they even manage to find guns or drugs on crewmembers. Now you whong be able to smuggle drugs while doing it. Why would there be when you can dump whatever you are smuggling or take it to your car? I highly doubt it but they wont release the exact numbers they give vague statements so they can grab more power. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. Learn to comprehend what I'm saying. If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. How classist of you to assume that they wouldnt also try smuggling drugs, if not for the money then simply for the power and because they can. Please follow TSA instructions and do not attempt to resolve the issue with transportation security officers, as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. Eh? This isnt the 1980s anymore. Plus I would love to see you pilots sitting in the cockpit waiting for 2 hours without being able to board. I recently took a leave of absence from my airline, am I eligible to use KCM while on leave? The neck tattoo guy isn't. Stay in your uniform you wont have that problem. And since you're so hung up on logistics, you should be able to comprehend that people in positions of need will more likely risk activities such as drug smuggling. (I hear at home On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. To protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program, you must abide by the following rules: Authorized flight crew members must travel in uniform. Or that they pay for TSA and we don't because of ticket fees. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. So many of these comments are quite entertaining. (a handful of others choose to use this out-dated screening method from time to time because they STILL consider it to be an accepted method of secondary screening!!!) Incidents onboard aircraft involving Federal Air Marshals. Flight attendants and pilots are not similar in importance or security. Crew members may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. I think that the best solution is to permanently revoke the KCM privilege from the offenders. Im curious to learn all the details of what this will look like. Legal Notice: This website is only intended to provide an overview of the Known Crewmember program. In the meantime, random screenings through the program will continue to increase, to minimize the number of prohibited items being brought through security. : ). Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. Airline pilot here. Once a gangster town. always a gangster town - starting at the top down (with the exclusion of The Obamas - they were the major good that ever came out of Chicago). Again, NOT for drug enforcement. It also has warned that such violations could jeopardize the entire Known Crew Member program. It is time that "whoever takes over screening" looks at us (all) as individuals. There is no rolling back what the TSA currently does - like it or not. Encourage your airline to be more stringent in hiring, join the hiring team. I'm a crew member and lately the random checks have increased to the point of ridiculous. There should be employee TSA entrance, no sense of having crews who show up last minute, which is understandable not having an employee entrance. Why, because it would require manpower that TSA is unwilling/unable to hire. Adding searches of gate personnel and aircrew adds around 5% to the number of searches. It's not my business what a person freely chooses to put in their own bodynor is it government's business. Either way, you're a crewmember so you'd better get ready for work, you have peanuts to distribute. Get a list of the restricted items, dangerous goods. There's always going to be a few who thwart the rules and get busted. Q:What if I have not received a KCM barcode card from my participating airline? Interesting SMR? Which is handing out band-aids and pressing buttons on an AED.after the machine TELLS you to. Instead it should focus on how TSA has become more relaxed and lazy at doing their jobs and are short staffed and dont have officers to man the KCM station so everytime someone gets randomed they are throwing a pissy fit about having to walk over. axes, hatchets or similar. CAP Solo Pilot 4.1.1.1. I'm sure many blog readers have stories of this to share. Too much education, and not enough accountability. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. 11/21/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 6/29/22 Notice to KCM Participating Airlines, 3/1/22 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, 6/23/20 Notice to KCM Participating Crewmembers, A non-expired government-issued photo ID; and, An aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID. As a 30 year career airline pilot, I have a vested interest in protecting my career, so do all of the other pilots I fly with taking security seriously. A: No. That should have never been allowed any more than ground workers could access special security lines when traveling. Q: Are temporary government issued photo IDs allowed? This is not good for regular TSA Pre-Check users. NAVIGATION WARNINGS ENR 5.1 Prohibited, Restricted, and Other Areas. So in reality anyone who come into the airlines as an employee. Any self respecting smuggler can take that on one flight, depending on what drug it is. At most: I would like to be seen as a whistle blower. Almost every cruise ship in the world offers some sort of laundry service onboard if you need. It aint gonna happen. So tell me. Instead it should focus on how TSA has become more relaxed and lazy at doing their jobs and are short staffed and dont have officers to man the KCM station so everytime someone Blame it on the flight attendants, but oh the pilots wouldn't try to smuggle anything. Then to say the flight attendants can make a few runs and make their salary. Will you diffuse the bomb and save the day? Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. Remember, the crew may instead check your carry-on luggage when embarking, so if you carry any electronics that break the MSC drone policy, they may be confiscated until the end of the cruise. Only authorized crewmembers approved by the KCM system may enter the airport sterile area through a KCM access point. (I hear at home about how the randoms seem to be more than the actual KCM good-to-gos.). And no one has said who pays for KCM now but it does cost something to operate and that funding should move to the TSA. KCM was a tremendous privilege these years we enjoyed it. KCM Crewmember definition & requirements: For the purpose of the KCM Program, authorized crewmembers have been defined by the TSA as: Captains or Pilots in Command, First Officers or Co-Pilots, Flight Engineers, Flight Navigators, Flight Attendants and Load Masters for full all-cargo operations. As a Flight Attendant I support keeping it for the pilots. Responsibilities Conduct administrative duties and errands as required I'm guessing there are very few prohibited items discovered during random screening. Get over yourselves. Once these tasks are successfully completed, the crewmember will be allowed to proceed into the sterile area. The program is not ending. Blame it on the flight attendants, but oh the pilots wouldn't try to smuggle anything. Then to say the flight attendants can make a few runs and make their salary. A: No. Yet they pay, through their time and treasure, for the billion searches performed in search of contraband and weapons. 2) You want to make the people who cross umpteen timezones for your safety stand around like the rest of you cheap cattle car bovines, watch crews take their sweet time at the back of the two hour A lot of money from pilot dues was spent by the Air Line Pilots Association to help get the Known Crew Member program going. NATA worked in close partnership with Airlines for America (A4A), the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), the TSA and NATA Compliance Services to bring this valuable program to our industry. You were given a privilege and exploited it. Bag restrictions are in place for the 2022 season. As a reminder, KCM is accessible only for "active" crewmembers, In an effort to clear up any misunderstanding and eliminate confusion on access protocol, we recommend that you review our . I've come up with a plan though for my KCM screening, up 75%I now wear flip flops and a Jethro Bodine belt to then get sent to random screening! Surely if it truly were that long Donna (Karen) you absolutely would have taken a photo. 0000045258 00000 n "TSA PRE-CHECK" line where most do not have to remove their shoes or take laptops out of bags - yay. The real issue is if you wanted to smuggle something, you would just throw it away if you got random or give it to someone else to try to take it through. 0000004686 00000 n You idiots change the security process based on whether or not crew have a certain shirt on. endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream Imagine having to wait in a security up to 3 hours when you already have to show up 1-2 hours beforehand. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to that crewmember, or it might involve a miscommunication with the crewmembers airline database. A KCM denial could result from a database error that is nonspecific to you, or it might involve a miscommunication with your air carrier. My grammar is literally better than yours so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Allowing anyone to bypass security is illogical and needs to stop. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. Thank you to the wonderful TSA for wasting everyones time and making the lives of hard working crew members harder while decreasing safety at the same time. Recently I was behind a FA in line to go thru themetal detectorsSHe rang 4 times so they just said go thru no problem.. We did it Joe! I agree some abuse the system and rules in place. And if I run out of duty day because I've been standing in line, oh well. . Known Crewmember What You Need To Know! So drugs should be allowed? I use KCM and live in a base. The use of the KCM program is a privilege and not a right. Youre a bunch of loser clowns. Worrying about wait times and passenger volume is what our management is for. This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023, My take on TSA Known Crewmember Program changes, How To Check TSA PreCheck Hours & Availability, Yuck: TSA Finds Gun Hidden In Raw Chicken, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, On the one hand, I do think its time that some changes are made to the Known Crewmember Program, purely based on the number of people who have abused it, On the other hand, fully screening pilots and flight attendants will take up more TSA resources and could lead to longer lines at security; furthermore, the TSA isnt actually very good at finding hidden objects, At least in the case of pilots, I think screening is kind of unnecessary, since theyre flying the plane, and if they wanted to do something, Ultimately I also get the argument that the TSA isnt there to stop drugs, but rather to stop weapons; that being said, if someone is smuggling kilos of cocaine and fentanyl, getting that off the streets (or out of the skies) doesnt seem like a bad thing. Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? And nothing to do with YOU! What else are they catching? "A half a block" really? Where did you read that? There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. I am a U.S. airline pilot, and while disappointing, this development was not unexpected. I was getting randomly selected so many times, I never renewed my KCM. All airline employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams, random gate screening and questioning by TSA officers. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. ALPA and the A4A met in late March 2011 with TSA Administrator John S. Pistole and received TSA approval to install and test Known Crewmember at as many as seven U.S. hub airports. I hope KCM is not done away with, but kept with added safeguards to prevent abuse. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. The continued success of the program is dependent upon crewmembers demonstrating that they can be trusted to comply with all related requirements. Contact Us. We shouldn't put anything pass anybody. {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3 They also let a passenger through a week ago with a razor blade. Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in You really need to understand a few basics of airline travel. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned. Flight attendants never should have been included. The STSO must: a. Im flight crew @ ORD. Q. The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. It's not about logistics. However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. c. May not access the sterile area through the KCM access point if any portion of their travel itinerary includes personal international travel. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. There's too many crewmembers to have them all go through pre-check. And, while doom and gloom regarding the future might be reality, there is a good chance that it will be nowhere near as bad as some try to paint it. A: Effective March 31, 2022, the TSA will require KCM eligible crewmembers to scan a KCM-issued barcode card when utilizing a KCM access point. To the direct and accurate comment that newly minted Flight Attendants who don't have much of a career to lose and much to gain from smuggling..I say if the resources are low then allow KCM for pilots only. If a pilots wanted to do something bad they could, weve seen it with Malaysian airlines pilots taking that flight down. Im not attacking them personally but if you think they are some highly specialized person they are not. Sporting goods, kitchen utensils, tools, and other items with sharp edges or points capable of injuring a person. It's not rocket science. Do you know how to build an LRBL at 17,500 feet ? The system is such a complete mess, and does nothing for safety. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. No jumping in front of the line ( I always commute in polo shirts ). Flight crews already have to arrive hours before their flight and are not even getting paid. If your crew-member record is SPOTLESS, your random screening should be much much less. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. Just because you hate your life and job doesnt mean everybody else does. Weren't we all background checked by FBI and other Federal Agencies to be issued this ID ? KCM does not exempt a crewmember from complying with these additional security measures. A joke. TSA has determined that certain violations of TSA security requirements by a crewmember are inconsistent with a determination that the crewmember poses a sufficiently low risk to transportation security to be eligible for KCM expedited screening, regardless of whether the violation physically occurred at the KCM access point. This is just going to exacerbate the problem of long lines and lack of precheck in multiple terminals, You can even point to this as a reason for the insane crowding at lounges were seeing. On top of missing birthdays, anniversaries, holidays, special occasions etc. Q:I have a SSSS on my boarding pass or seat request card, what do I do? Instead of punishing Flight Attendants (who seem to be blamed for SO MUCH & historically are never at fault - Ive done the deep dive research), why dont we put the emphasis on the truly broken system, the TSA - aka. board the aircraft. Doesn't my ID matches the same face and picture of myself in their laptop database? If the program went back to its origins, it would work fine, but the authorities are far too politically correct to exclude just one problem group, so now we all get to suffer for their sins. I'll be signed in and ready for work whenever. Goood good. Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). Crew members should: participate in their national vaccination programmes recognising that vaccination offers personal protection from infection and can assist in recovery of global connectivity; monitor themselves for fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, loss of taste, or other symptoms of COVID-19 according to . KCM was a tremendous privilege these years we enjoyed it. Do you know how early we have to arrive to be on time and not get paid? That is not correct. Then you have to listen to Its not entitlement. Legal Notice: This website is only intended to provide an overview of the Known Crewmember program. Care to share that photo to back up your claims? Real professional comment on your part. Cops, firefighters and paramedics are first responders. believe it or not your not nearly as important as you would like to think you are. MNM8[@w1\J2t_ig VIgM]0%b"fM Cleaners/agents/food vendors/cleaning crews/maintenance. I love my job and certainly contribute more than just having a pulse. Exactly Mr. DeKnob! And nothing to do with YOU! I'll actually enjoy watching you go through security and whining about it. 0000057317 00000 n Hopefully, this is thought out carefully, or there will be delays because crewmembers will be held up at security checkpoints. 0 Unless traveling where you go through security like everyone else. As for their excuse as to why theyre increasing random security checks, its kind of a dumb argument. Make an example of someone make it public and I bet people will reconsider their behavior. Pilots have years and $100,000 plus dollars invested in this career. Boohoo. Ive definitely noticed an increase in random screenings over the last several months. If youve not got anything productive to say, just focus on flying the plane. More egregious violations of the Code Federal Regulations (CFRs) could result in civil or criminal penalties. Special Use Airspace. If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. The current limits are arbitrary and nearly meaningless. Are not allowed to carry property belonging to other individuals through the KCM Access Point. Right Eddie!?! #3 is DEN - they do a secondary screening where they swipe the crew member's hands and test the swab in a machine. Prohibited Items Civil Enforcement Civil Enforcement Prohibited Items Planning ahead and packing properly can facilitate the screening process and ease your travel experience at the airport. To operate as a CAP Solo Pilot, the member must possess a valid student pilot certificate, or in the case of a pilot transitioning to another aircraft category, at least an FAA Private Pilot certificate in another category and/or class of aircraft, and appropriate solo endorsements from a CAP Instructor Pilot for the make and model aircraft flown. If you arrive at the busiest times, youll see dozens of airport staff coming thru the PreCheck positions. Flight attendants have the weapons they need readily available: cockpit access and a bottle of wine from the galley. "First responders" L.O.L. Also, many large airports have crew and employee security checkpoints that are currently in the secure area that are accessible by employee shuttle buses. You have basic first aid. The crew members are then asked to complete a written report that records all details of the flight. Ok, back to your BarcaLounger. The second most common hard skill for a mcdonalds crew member is food orders appearing on 29.2% of resumes. They are "consensual" in name only, and that bending of the usual prohibition of unwarranted search is justified only because their primary purpose is to stop terrorists from taking weapons onto planes. Your anger and frustration brings me joy. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. What do you make of the news of the TSA replacing the Known Crewmember Program with Expedited Crew Access? Only 1 per person/crew member allowed (II) Safety cover is securely fitted over the heating element . Legally, TSA searches are on thin ice with respect to the 4th Amendment. Not airport staff and crew check point. The TSAs job is not to look for drugs or identify other illegal activity. Ukraine Prohibited and Restricted Items FedEx Cross Border is unable to ship prohibited and non-approved restricted items on behalf of its customers. Questions or feedback by flight crew should be directed to your respective airline. So in reality anyone who come into the airlines as an employee. Lets not forget is was started by ALPA for pilots. A large part of the problem was allowing crew members - pilots or flight attendants - to use KCM when off duty with the exception of going immediately taccess o/from their base as a commuter. KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. When you are selected for random, at Denver for instance, you are told to go to random screening. General. TSA is already severely understaffed at many airports. Failure to follow the instruction provided by the TSO may result in action by the TSA, which may include a loss of KCM privileges for that crewmember.
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